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Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies

Posted By: Sam, on host 24.62.250.124
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 06:22:44
In Reply To: Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies posted by Brunnen-G on Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 17:37:24:

> One thing I'd love to see in a Bond movie is a screenplay which is faithful to, or at least remotely based on, THE FREAKING ORIGINAL BOOK THEY STOLE THE TITLE FROM. This hasn't been done in decades and there are still plenty of books left which would make brilliant movies.

Fleming books or Bond books in general? There aren't a lot of Fleming books that haven't been used somehow. Moonraker is a good example, but there are problems with using a lot of the others. The Spy Who Loved Me (book) is not very commercial, and only the title was sold to EON with the rights to film the Bond series anyway. The Live and Let Die movie wasn't too close to the book, but Licence To Kill used more of that material.

> Brunnen-"outer space?! Just because it had 'moon' in the title they decided to set the movie in outer space instead of Dover? Yeesh."G

An embarrassing moment in the series, to be sure. But it came out in 1979. *Everything* that came out in 1979 had to be set in space. The movie that would follow The Spy Who Loved Me was originally supposed to be For Your Eyes Only, but then Star Wars came out. As bad as Moonraker is, I'm actually glad it worked out that way, because For Your Eyes Only is one of my favorite Bond movies, and it would not have turned out that way except that the filmmakers consciously understood Moonraker to be an artistic failure (though a commercial success) and purposely took the series in the opposite direction.

Dave and I always get into this thing about what the worst Bond movie is. He says it's Moonraker. I say it's the Man With the Golden Gun, because, while certainly Golden Gun isn't as *spectacular* a failure, I don't think there is ANYTHING good about Golden Gun, while I can say exactly four good things about Moonraker: (1) the first three quarters of the pre-credits scene, not only suspenseful but ground-breaking free-fall effects at the time, (2) the centrifuge scene, (3) the attack dogs scene, and (4) the title theme music.

Hmmm. Someone started a Bond thread. I can tell by how much I just typed.

Replies To This Message

Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies - Dave - Tue, 11/19/2002, 18:07:53
Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies - Bourne - Thu, 11/14/2002, 08:15:10
- Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies - Dixie - Thu, 11/14/2002, 10:08:27
  - Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies - Quartz - Fri, 11/15/2002, 18:45:47
  - Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies - Faux Pas - Thu, 11/14/2002, 10:22:24
    - Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies - Bourne - Fri, 11/15/2002, 00:39:18
      - Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies - Dixie - Fri, 11/15/2002, 10:42:01
    - Re: stuff I'd like to see in the movies - El_Diablo - Thu, 11/14/2002, 11:36:28

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Message:	> > One thing I'd love to see in a Bond movie is a screenplay which is faithful to, or at least remotely based on, THE FREAKING ORIGINAL BOOK THEY STOLE THE TITLE FROM. This hasn't been done in decades and there are still plenty of books left which would make brilliant movies. > > Fleming books or Bond books in general? There aren't a lot of Fleming books that haven't been used somehow. Moonraker is a good example, but there are problems with using a lot of the others. The Spy Who Loved Me (book) is not very commercial, and only the title was sold to EON with the rights to film the Bond series anyway. The Live and Let Die movie wasn't too close to the book, but Licence To Kill used more of that material. > > > Brunnen-"outer space?! Just because it had 'moon' in the title they decided to set the movie in outer space instead of Dover? Yeesh."G > > An embarrassing moment in the series, to be sure. But it came out in 1979. Everything that came out in 1979 had to be set in space. The movie that would follow The Spy Who Loved Me was originally supposed to be For Your Eyes Only, but then Star Wars came out. As bad as Moonraker is, I'm actually glad it worked out that way, because For Your Eyes Only is one of my favorite Bond movies, and it would not have turned out that way except that the filmmakers consciously understood Moonraker to be an artistic failure (though a commercial success) and purposely took the series in the opposite direction. > > Dave and I always get into this thing about what the worst Bond movie is. He says it's Moonraker. I say it's the Man With the Golden Gun, because, while certainly Golden Gun isn't as spectacular a failure, I don't think there is ANYTHING good about Golden Gun, while I can say exactly four good things about Moonraker: (1) the first three quarters of the pre-credits scene, not only suspenseful but ground-breaking free-fall effects at the time, (2) the centrifuge scene, (3) the attack dogs scene, and (4) the title theme music. > > Hmmm. Someone started a Bond thread. I can tell by how much I just typed.
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