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Re: Civil liberties, anyone?
Posted By: The Other Matthew, on host 147.72.80.2
Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 05:44:00
In Reply To: Civil liberties, anyone? posted by Ellmyruh on Monday, December 17, 2001, at 17:51:12:

Ok...we're fighting a war. I think we can all
agree on that. Who are we fighting? A bunch of
Middle Eastern guys. Thusly, who would want
to harm America the most? Middle Eastern
guys. Makes sense to me. I'm not saying that
all Middle Eastern guys want to harm America,
but I'd say it much more likely they will than,
say, a blue-eyed blond-haired Swede.

Throughout the investigation, it has been
noted numerous times that many of the
people involved in committing these acts
came over here previously on temporary visas,
and that people who are known terrorists and
are wanted by the federal government have
done the same thing: they came over on
student visas, went to our universities (on
yours and on my tax money), then went back
with their newfound knowledge to aid their
terrorist buddies. I'd say that's a trend that
needs to be investigated.

Most of the Middle Eastern guys being held by
our government, if I am not mistaken, are not
citizens of this country. Therefore, they are not
protected by our Constiution and the other
laws we have in place.

The writer of this speech wonders about the
suspension of habeas corpus becoming
common. I'm sure the same thing was said
when the greatest president we've ever had,
Abraham Lincoln, did the same thing during
the Civil War. The same thing happened
during World War II when FDR ordered
Japanese-Americans put into internment
camps. The thought process is like I said
before: We are fighting Middle Easterners,
thus: a Middle Easterner is more likely to want
to harm America.

The writer wonders about military tribunals.
Military tribunals are not going to be used
against *citizens of this country.* They will be
used against what are, essentially, prisoners
of war. People who are not citizens of the
United States HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS.

In closing, *your* rights and *my* rights are
not being infringed upon. It is the "rights" of
people who aren't even citizens of this country
that are being "infringed" upon. (Notice the
quotation marks.) And if you still believe that
yout rights are being taken away, and you can
get enough people to go along with
you...well...that's what the Second Amendment
is for. To ensure that the power of government
resides with the people.

The Other "Step 1: Open mouth. Step 2: Insert
foot." Matthew

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