> > > > > > > > > and I have completed getting the jeweled dagger getting past the orc and getting the drawbring down but I must get past the fire.
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> > > > > > > > Do the words "peanut butter" and "jello bath" ring a bell? You might find something helpful somewhere around there.
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> > > > > > > > mac "wanting dessert now" rinus7
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> > > > > > > I can't find anything around those notes unless you mean kicking the leaves.
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> > > > > > If you already did everything there, then you might want to check the gardens a little more. I don't know if you did that or not yet?
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> > > > > > Did you try searching for traps at the other place?
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> > > > > > mac "flowers that melt in your hand, not your mouth" rinus7
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> > > > > I have gotten a gold from the diamond, yuckyuck leaves place, and forest, maybe the garden but to make sure can you tell me where you find it in the garden?
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> > > > There's a dead-end in the garden you can access from the northern side (you'll go south). Actually, aside from the castle, it's the ONLY dead-end in the garden. Search around there.
> > > >
> > > > -Mandi
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> > >
> > > My only choices are to:
> > > Jump up and down.
> > > Swallow one of your nails.
> > > Whack your head with your hammer.
> > >
> > > none of them find a coin.
> >
> > There are actually three dead ends apart from the castle, four if you count the place where you walk in circles. I think the one that has some siginificance is the place with the orange flowers, but I have no idea what to do there. I'm in the same boat as you, Gandalf
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> Arrgh. Okay, let me think... I think the one you're looking for can be reached from the northern edge of the garden; you'll go south to get there. That's all I can remember without playing FQ a fourth time (and I refuse to do that to my hands).
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> It's NOT the one that takes you in circles, I can tell you that much.
>
> -Mandi

I think Mandi's right; as far as I remember, you go south from a northeastern region of the gardens, a few moves from the place where the cat was.